Hi Stephen,

> ...The acid test is whether
> it's useful. Do people derive value from joining it? Does it help
> to community to establish relationships with providers?


In certain sense, yes: users get instant access to resources they couldn't dream before by joining this VO, without even knowing who are the providers. It has a flip side in that all the resources are very heterogeneous and the providers do not feel obliged (not bound by any AUP) to provide any level of services, but it's certainly better that nothing. It's like WWW: site owners are not obliged to provide accurate or timely information, or to even be on-line all the time; and yet they have plenty of visitors.

> BTW, you haven't answered my questions.
>
> Does a single GIN VO AUP (but no GIN Grid AUP) work for you?


Yes, sorry - this was basically my point; NorduGrid exercises a pretty similar arrangement.

Cheers,
Oxana